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That Bright Imperious Line
by Rashka the Demon (wolf in the cave) (rashaka)
at June 8th, 2008 (01:16 am)
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God damn yoooooouuuuuuuu, redbrunja!


A sequel. To "Whose Hearts Are Mountains". Which was only ever supposed to be a one-shot. ::shudder::

I'll have to call it "That Bright Imperious Line" (note the icon poem switch) and I just thought up the set-up (see above link), but now I have no idea where to go except that there's going to be a lot of awkwardness at the Western Air Temple once Zuko joins up.

Suggestions? Plot? Conflicts? Ways to have dramatic revelations?




"Um, hi."

He drops from the hanging vine; like a school of fish they fling themselves around with hands up and mouths gawping. He lets himself look at Katara, just once, and he knows.

She never told.

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Posted by: Rashka the Demon (wolf in the cave) (rashaka)
Posted at: June 8th, 2008 09:10 am (UTC)

potential idea:

Zuko came to teach Aang and is totally committed to that. At first Katara's awkward, but once she realizes that Zuko's not, her awkwardness turns into frustration. He's ignoring her. Indifferent to her. Acting like it never happened, and that drives Katara batshit. How can she pick a fight with him and yell at him and control the situation if he's going to ignore the situation?

Instead of being smart and realizing Zuko's right to shove those feelings and personal issues to the side until the war is over, Katara becomes determined to crack his facade and find out if he really has moved on or not.


Hm...not sure if I like it. How does that gel with the other characters at the WAT? With Aang? Especially since Katara now knows how Aang feels about her.

food for thought:

If ZUko introduces himself pretty much the same way, what about Katara's behavior should be different from the episode? She still doesn't trust him of course, but what should change in that scene?

Posted by: jakia (jakia)
Posted at: June 8th, 2008 03:06 pm (UTC)
i'm trying to picture it and all i'm coming up with is funny stuff. awkward stuff.
canon is more like guidelines

need a theme? try awkward-sauce sexual tension.

Like, every time Katara sees Zuko, she pictures him naked.

She does want to; she just does.

Then she jumps him.

...

Okay, it's rather far-fetched and probably too humorous for a serious fic, but hey, I like my smut well-ridden with comedy.

Posted by: Rashka the Demon (wolf in the cave) (rashaka)
Posted at: June 8th, 2008 07:08 pm (UTC)
Re: i'm trying to picture it and all i'm coming up with is funny stuff. awkward stuff.
Bite me. -Toph

I'm kind of in the same boat. My sensibilities tell me that it should be at least medium-serious like the first fic was, and that there's plenty of angst and drama waiting from such a situation...

...but my brain keeps imagining Katara freaking out and doing all sorts of hilarious things and the whole scenario descending into an episode of Scrubs. I love Scrubs.

But serious things are happening!

But it's so awkward and awkward is funny...

But I love to write drama! This is fraught with drama!

But...funny...

Posted by: jakia (jakia)
Posted at: June 8th, 2008 11:19 pm (UTC)
Re: i'm trying to picture it and all i'm coming up with is funny stuff. awkward stuff.
credit dietokaku

I still think she should picture him naked. Because he is the first boy-parts she's seen. And that would be a mental image to plague her for a long time. If anything, it could be your comic relief!

Posted by: Rashka the Demon (wolf in the cave) (rashaka)
Posted at: June 9th, 2008 01:55 am (UTC)
Re: i'm trying to picture it and all i'm coming up with is funny stuff. awkward stuff.
Bright Imperious Line - Zuko/Katara

Katara thinking about Zuko's "royal jewels" are a given. XD

But right now my whole plot is

1. Zuko joins the gang
2. Katara freaks out
3. things are awkward
4. they kind of start up again, but hide it
5. at least one other person finds out.

That's not really a story concept, even for a one-shot. I need some kind of conflict to resolve. Something all these events have to happen around, and it has to be self-contained within the WAT setting.

I've always been a fan of having some huge dramatic event (like someone almost dying) that prompts characters to be open and honest and secrets to come out. I don't just want to say "Katara accidentally eats a berry she's allergic to and almost dies and Zuko reveals their relationship while crying over almost-death-bed."

It would have to be something less arbitrary, but I have no idea what kind of conflict would lead to the truth coming out.

Posted by: clodia (clodia_risa)
Posted at: July 23rd, 2008 08:07 pm (UTC)
Re: i'm trying to picture it and all i'm coming up with is funny stuff. awkward stuff.
Lest We Forget

There's always trying to get Aang's chakra unblocked. Maybe they decide that they need to have a group therapy session so he can open up and realign his chakras so that he can go back into the Avatar state.

Although that is just sounding like an entirely different story altogether now.

Or you could work around what was said about Aang in the finale - that he really needs more work on each of the bending varieties, and have stress building up as he's made into more and more of a weapon. The isolation that he would feel might tie thematically back into the original story - the desire for human connection.

I don't know - there's a reason I don't write fic.

Posted by: Jokingly Jade (jade_sabre_301)
Posted at: June 9th, 2008 05:01 am (UTC)
Re: i'm trying to picture it and all i'm coming up with is funny stuff. awkward stuff.
kiss

Well, I'm thinking that whatever the premise is, it's dark, so the humor stands out for a) being funny but also b) being very funny within the context of something very not-funny. It's like...laughing at Rozencrantz and Guildenstern when you KNOW they're going to die in like two scenes, because they're being funny, but whatever scene they're in isn't really funny at all. (At least, that was my experience of Hamlet. Can I tell you the scene? No. But I remember R&G were being hilarious, but I felt really weird laughing, because the scene itself was very dark.)

Of course, it's alterverse, so Katara's not as dark-and-angry as she would be normally (alas! angry-angsty sex opportunity, down the drain! ...oh well, I'll just have to write my blatant crazy-Spike ripoff fic instead). If you do go with the whole Katara-trusts-him-but-doesn't-want-to--like, she trusts him, but she's trying to pull back from that instinct because it's just because they had that fling that one time hoshit she's so screwed--and so she's harsh on him to avoid being harsh on herself, and so the fact that he doesn't respond does make her kind of angry, and so she's angry at him when really she's angry at herself (ESPECIALLY in the light of the whole Aang thing--like, why should she keep wanting to turn to Zuko, when she KNOWS Aang loves her even though maybe she doesn't feel that way now maybe she could one day while meanwhile Zuko doesn't act like anything happened AT ALL so he probably doesn't care at all so there's no reason she should care what he thinks anymore because clearly that was just a fluke that one time they *Dolby Surround Sound Edition of the Five Seconds that Went So Far*).

Um...yeah. I hope that's coherent/helps? At least in terms of the dark background against which you put the funny-awkward? Because then some of the stuff--like imagining him naked--is hilarious at the awkward moments, but at the same time she's really trapped in this very negative state and so the funny-awkward remembering also reminds you why she's so not-happy.

And of course as she starts trusting him and you lose that darkness, there's always the whole Aang-will-FLIP thing to fall back on. And the whole end-of-the-world. Etc. etc. etc.

...yeah okay I'll stop for now. (But man, between WAT and Stormbenders, I'm just DYING for some fic to write. But, like you, I have no plot. D: )

Posted by: Rashka the Demon (wolf in the cave) (rashaka)
Posted at: June 9th, 2008 05:08 am (UTC)
Re: i'm trying to picture it and all i'm coming up with is funny stuff. awkward stuff.
Dragon lives forever-- not so little gir

like, she trusts him, but she's trying to pull back from that instinct because it's just because they had that fling that one time hoshit she's so screwed--and so she's harsh on him to avoid being harsh on herself, and so the fact that he doesn't respond does make her kind of angry, and so she's angry at him when really she's angry at herself (ESPECIALLY in the light of the whole Aang thing--like, why should she keep wanting to turn to Zuko, when she KNOWS Aang loves her even though maybe she doesn't feel that way now maybe she could one day while meanwhile Zuko doesn't act like anything happened AT ALL so he probably doesn't care at all so there's no reason she should care what he thinks anymore because clearly that was just a fluke that one time they *Dolby Surround Sound Edition of the Five Seconds that Went So Far*).

::CLAPS:: I think that says it all. Like you and I are watching the same Inner Katara theater show.

Thanks!

I'm just DYING for some fic to write. But, like you, I have no plot.

Between you and me, you're welcome to any of mine that are at rashaka_fiction, because there's a ton of dangling plotlines and unwritten scene ideas. ::is clearly definitely not trying to foist fics onto a friend because that would be Bad. Of course. Right.::

Posted by: Jokingly Jade (jade_sabre_301)
Posted at: June 9th, 2008 05:13 am (UTC)
Re: i'm trying to picture it and all i'm coming up with is funny stuff. awkward stuff.
pimpin

Yeah! Now you just have to, y'know, make it coherent! Yeah! No problem! :-b

Mmmmm...you are an evil temptress, you know that, right? Because your ideas tend to be brilliant, and there's nothing I love more than stealing brilliant ideas. Heh. *is innocently unaware of any potential trap*--what, you say you have candy in the van?--*likes candy*

Posted by: redbrunja (redbrunja)
Posted at: June 9th, 2008 12:50 am (UTC)
Look Through Me (Zuko/Katara)

I would suggest distrust as a theme. Either Katara trusts him more than the others do, and is trying not to (which would be a nice reversal from canon) or she trusts him less because of how close they where.

Posted by: Rashka the Demon (wolf in the cave) (rashaka)
Posted at: June 9th, 2008 01:31 am (UTC)
<i>she sings 'Hey baby can you bleed like me?'</i>
Dragon lives forever-- not so little gir

I like that. I don't think Katara is cold or hard enough to really distrust someone she shared that kind of intimacy with, especially since Zuko has never betrayed her in this alterverse. And also since she's still so young.

So Katara would really have to work to distrust Zuko, and sometimes that means overcompensating while other times she's accidentally too familiar with him. Meanwhile, the others would wonder what he's done since the North Pole, and wonder if it's all a trap.

I have this image in my head of Katara accidentally doing one of those tell-tale "I've slept with this person" acts, like brushing something off his shirt, or picking something out of his food, or whatever. Great and famous affairs in history have been outed over little mistakes like that.



Posted by: redbrunja (redbrunja)
Posted at: June 9th, 2008 04:29 am (UTC)
Re: <i>she sings 'Hey baby can you bleed like me?'</i>
Waterbending Master (Katara)

Glad to be helpful.

Yeah, I think Katara would have a lot of difficulty acting like she would if she HADN'T had sex with him, so her reactions would be off.

I have this image in my head of Katara accidentally doing one of those tell-tale "I've slept with this person" acts, like brushing something off his shirt, or picking something out of his food, or whatever. Great and famous affairs in history have been outed over little mistakes like that.

Yes. I love it when that happens, and it's always feels so much more real and 'oooh, shit' than when it's just someone walking in on them.

Posted by: Rashka the Demon (wolf in the cave) (rashaka)
Posted at: June 9th, 2008 04:32 am (UTC)
Re: <i>she sings 'Hey baby can you bleed like me?'</i>
Bite me. -Toph

Any other ideas you have would be welcome.

I love it when that happens, and it's always feels so much more real and 'oooh, shit' than when it's just someone walking in on them.

Hell is in the details.

Posted by: redbrunja (redbrunja)
Posted at: June 9th, 2008 12:01 pm (UTC)
Re: <i>she sings 'Hey baby can you bleed like me?'</i>
Fangirls Rejoice (Zuko)

Yes, it is. Also, those are the harder things not hid - not the big, making sure the door is locked when you're macking on illict boyfriend.

Posted by: fickletastictot (fickletastictot)
Posted at: July 26th, 2008 10:36 pm (UTC)
Re: <i>she sings 'Hey baby can you bleed like me?'</i>
flowers + love letter - mine

Drive-by suggestion post. :) I hope you don't mind.

You could have Katara notice that Zuko's clothes are crooked at one point. She goes over to him and fixes it herself (I've always imagined her character being finicky that way) by unfastening his belt or untucking his shirt which gives away the hint that they've been around each other in various states of undress.

Posted by: Rashka the Demon (wolf in the cave) (rashaka)
Posted at: July 28th, 2008 03:45 am (UTC)
Re: <i>she sings 'Hey baby can you bleed like me?'</i>
Bright Imperious Line - Zuko/Katara

Clothes-touching! Also a winner. I can just imagine Sokka's face if Katara, like, tugged Zuko's belt a little higher on his hips or something.

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